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Pastor Sierra Ward's avatar

Great explanation. Also is this a hill to die on? Whether Jesus was born this day or that…. He came! And honestly living in the snowy dark cold climes of the north…. I need this! So i for one am happy to celebrate now! And naysayers can say nay or not! Thanks!

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Evan's avatar

J.M. Robinson disagreeing with the opinion of Dr. Heiser!? Scandalous! 😱😱😱

Aha, in all seriousness, I feel that the rebuttal to Heiser’s astral prophecy thesis doesn’t do it justice. I am sad to say goodbye to the symbolism of winter, cold, darkness, and the in breaking of light into the world provided by the historic date, but as I hold tradition ought to be shaped by Scripture the fact is Heiser’s reading of Revelation 12 is too coincidental and sophisticated to so easily dismiss. Again, the symbolism of December 25 is nice, but the symbolism of the DCW that Heiser details is more central to the biblical story and it’s must say something that the imagery John uses lines up with actual astronomical events that occurred on an actual day that was rife with symbolism for the Jewish calendar (as Heiser details). What do we do with all this? How can we simply say, “Nah, that’s just a fluke.” Heiser’s work showed that the DCW is one of the major through-lines in the Bible, and that Christ came to defeat the evils identified by the DCW. So, reconsider how John so happening to describe the birth of Christ using terms that so happened to accord with astrological imagery that so happened to come together on an identifiable day that so happened to be associated with the DCW? I’m sorry, to not at the very least hold that there’s INTENSE contention between the two dates is very superficial. As for how John would even know about this: err, the same way he knew anything in the Book of Revelation, he had it revealed? Kind of seems like an odd objection to make, no?

My main point is simply that I can’t just dispense with Heiser’s view because it requires one to write off a vast amount of accompanying symbolism more relevant to the narrative arc of Scripture and Christ’s life as a coincidence. No, this requires far more tact and rigor.

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